here also through ff_press About Yevon as a religion. I would like to disagree on the fact that it's 'incomplete.' Over a thousand years a religion gets many opinions and legalist addendums to it by other people, mainly priests, missionaries, secular leaders...
I hate to use Christianity, but it is the religion I am most familiar with it's history and customs. For instance, Roman Catholicism has told their followers for years that it is against God's will for them to use birth control, read the Bible, intercede with their sins to God without a priest, and that they can get to heaven through works and not by grace, plus the existence of purgatory. The Catholics are some of the worst offenders that I can think of and Christainity as a religion has been around for 2000 years. Baptists are a close second, they are against drinking, dancing and cards and some are against sex within marriage and I always laugh at those who say sex is for reproductive purposes only. *eye roll*
And btw, things such as homosexuality, pedophilia, having sex with animals, human sacrifice and such are not even listed in the bible as offenses against God. This is because the Jewish faith and people would never even consider doing such things. The problem came when 'heathens' were introduced into the the heretical sect of the Jewish faith in the very beginning (which yes, is Christianity) and they did these things and the Jews had to sit them down and teach them that these things were considered wrong in God's eyes and eventually it was written into a document called the Didakte (which I'm sure the spelling is wrong here but I'm going phonetically, forgive me) which means Teachings in Latin, yet this document was not included into the canonical Bible (be it Catholic or Protestant). My point is that not everything involved in a religion ends up in a written document or comes from the canonical religious text (if there is any). The things that are generally considered morally wrong are in the Bible and indeed most religious text, such as prohibitions against murder, stealing, and lieing. These appear to be general unconcious traits that humanity doesn't enjoy. Now, in religious texts you also get the idea of holy war and genocide that is approved and applauded by the god and yes even God.
Along with the respect for Summoners and the few prohibiitions we learn about there is a great deal of respect and reverence for one's ancestors and a worship of the sea and water (through which the pyreflies move and so does Sin). I'm not a great Yevonite scholar and my High Priest has signed off before I could ask.
As for homosexuality, remember you are taking a real life issue and placing it into a fantasy setting. It would be much more pertinent to talk about the dangers of inter-specie breeding (or inter-racial breeding if you prefer) between human/al bhed and human/guado. There is a large cultural gap between all three species/races that has been fostered 1000 years, since this was addressed in the game through Seymour Guado and Yuna.
Yet, if you are going to discuss homosexuality in Spira and it's not addressed it really could go either way. All you have is the responses and characters you interact with through the course of the game, though I would like to point out that all the 'romantic' relationships that are seen in the game are heterosexual. But argument for arguments sake, homosexuality could be accepted because of either an overpopulation of males or an overpopulation of females and an overabundance of orphans that need families and who better to raise a child than two people who cannot have them themselves and have the excess income than a heterosexual couple that has two or three and can't afford it?
I think I've taken up quite a bit of your time and spouted off. I believe now, I shall bow out. Thank you for your time.
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Date: 2006-07-15 03:38 am (UTC)I hate to use Christianity, but it is the religion I am most familiar with it's history and customs. For instance, Roman Catholicism has told their followers for years that it is against God's will for them to use birth control, read the Bible, intercede with their sins to God without a priest, and that they can get to heaven through works and not by grace, plus the existence of purgatory. The Catholics are some of the worst offenders that I can think of and Christainity as a religion has been around for 2000 years. Baptists are a close second, they are against drinking, dancing and cards and some are against sex within marriage and I always laugh at those who say sex is for reproductive purposes only. *eye roll*
And btw, things such as homosexuality, pedophilia, having sex with animals, human sacrifice and such are not even listed in the bible as offenses against God. This is because the Jewish faith and people would never even consider doing such things. The problem came when 'heathens' were introduced into the the heretical sect of the Jewish faith in the very beginning (which yes, is Christianity) and they did these things and the Jews had to sit them down and teach them that these things were considered wrong in God's eyes and eventually it was written into a document called the Didakte (which I'm sure the spelling is wrong here but I'm going phonetically, forgive me) which means Teachings in Latin, yet this document was not included into the canonical Bible (be it Catholic or Protestant). My point is that not everything involved in a religion ends up in a written document or comes from the canonical religious text (if there is any). The things that are generally considered morally wrong are in the Bible and indeed most religious text, such as prohibitions against murder, stealing, and lieing. These appear to be general unconcious traits that humanity doesn't enjoy. Now, in religious texts you also get the idea of holy war and genocide that is approved and applauded by the god and yes even God.
Along with the respect for Summoners and the few prohibiitions we learn about there is a great deal of respect and reverence for one's ancestors and a worship of the sea and water (through which the pyreflies move and so does Sin). I'm not a great Yevonite scholar and my High Priest has signed off before I could ask.
As for homosexuality, remember you are taking a real life issue and placing it into a fantasy setting. It would be much more pertinent to talk about the dangers of inter-specie breeding (or inter-racial breeding if you prefer) between human/al bhed and human/guado. There is a large cultural gap between all three species/races that has been fostered 1000 years, since this was addressed in the game through Seymour Guado and Yuna.
Yet, if you are going to discuss homosexuality in Spira and it's not addressed it really could go either way. All you have is the responses and characters you interact with through the course of the game, though I would like to point out that all the 'romantic' relationships that are seen in the game are heterosexual. But argument for arguments sake, homosexuality could be accepted because of either an overpopulation of males or an overpopulation of females and an overabundance of orphans that need families and who better to raise a child than two people who cannot have them themselves and have the excess income than a heterosexual couple that has two or three and can't afford it?
I think I've taken up quite a bit of your time and spouted off. I believe now, I shall bow out. Thank you for your time.